New audio tapes leak of Lindsey Graham criticizing Trump

  • New audio leaked from Senator Lindsey Graham revealing her feelings on Biden and Trump.
  • In an interview after the Capitol riots, Graham is heard saying he thinks Biden is the “best person” to have.
  • Graham is also heard criticizing Trump on another tape, saying he is “playing the game of television” and “went too far.”

New audio tapes have surfaced of Sen. Lindsey Graham, a known Trump ally, criticizing Trump and praising Biden after the Jan. 6 riots on Capitol Hill.

The tapes were played on CNN’s “Anderson Cooper 360” during an interview segment with New York Times reporters Alex Burns and Jonathan Martin. Martin interviewed Graham on January 6 in the immediate aftermath of the riots, and the senator spoke candidly about then-President-elect Joe Biden and former President Trump.

In the first audio clip, Graham said that he thought everyone would “come out of this stronger.”

“Moments like this reset. People will calm down. People will say, ‘I don’t want to be associated with that,'” Graham said. “This is a group within a group. What this does, there will be a rallying effect for a while, (then) the country says ‘We’re better than this.'”

He was then asked if Biden would help make that happen, to which Graham replied, “Totally.”

“Maybe she’s the best person to have,” Graham is heard saying. “I mean, how mad can you be at Joe Biden?”

In a second audiotape played on CNN, Graham is heard saying in an interview after the riots that he thought Trump “misjudged passion,” criticizing the former president’s actions.

“He plays the TV game and he went too far here,” Graham said. “That rally didn’t help, talking about casting Liz (Cheney). She created a sense of revenge.”

Graham was likely referring to a portion of Trump’s Ellipse speech on January 6, 2021, when Trump suggested that his supporters “principalize to hell” those not fighting to overturn the election.

Graham is known to be a staunch ally of the former president. However, Graham may have had a more complicated view of Trump. In Burns and Martin’s new book “This Will Not Pass,” they claim Graham threatened to invoke the 25th Amendment to remove Trump from office during the riots on Capitol Hill. Trump later mocked Graham, calling him a “progressive senator from South Carolina” during a March fundraising dinner at Mar-a-Lago.

Graham has also publicly criticized Trump for raising the possibility of pardons for Capitol Hill rioters, calling Trump’s idea “inappropriate.” This prompted Trump to call Graham RINO, a Republican slur meaning “Republican in name only.” The term has often been used against Trump critics such as Republican representatives Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger.

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